Censorship

[Spyder]

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[SliK]

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Get fucked

[Suzanne.s]

"however to censor movies, music and the Internet should not be allowed."

I think we should offer options, so we don't push something on people and force them to be exposed to something they don't want, because that would be invading their space.

we should have censored and uncensored content, so people could take what works for them, and have warnings or whatever on some content.

but they shouldn't ever banned books or movies or close websites for whatever reason... the individual should be able to choose, according to their own censoring rules (like excluding what they don't like).

anyone should say what they want, but they shouldn't force an audience or people who don't like what he is saying to listen, unless the media he is using is for everyone, then everyone should say what they want, and if someone didn't like it, he can listen to a privet media that offers what he wants, and agrees with his views.

[classthe_king]

Class, why is raping a child off limits... but murdering a grown man then raping his lifeless, dismembered body isn't?

And you would be ok with an adult female getting raped and tortured?

Not ok in the sense that you support it, but you support a websites right to post such material?

Okay, first off let me just say with cases like gruesomely murdering someone then raping the body I would be lenient and somewhat okay if there was an effort to ban that, I was just making the argument for gore sites as a whole. However, I'll try to explain why it's different.

Murder is illegal, and whoever makes those videos should definitely be punished a lot. I would support the death penalty but that's a different topic. Anyway, viewing a murder is not illegal. There isn't anything actually wrong with watching somebody get murdered, it just kind of makes you a sick fuck. With child porn, that's not the case. It's illegal to create, distribute, watch, post, etc, child porn. The point of making it is for the gratification of people to watch, that's the only reason the video was made. And that is illegal and wrong, therefore it should be banned in my eyes while the other stuff shouldn't necessarily be banned.

[Spyder]

hahah slik no, stay on topic or get warned

so fuck you

[SliK]

Spyder, you aren't even on topic, take it to PM. How can you justify warning me for saying get fucked and then turn around and say "fuck you"? Even when you try to be on topic your lack of intelligence and inability to grasp concepts is embarrassing. You can't offer any useful information so you warm someone like a little bitch. I can't believe a grown man would actually do that lmao. i bet you feel pretty fucking awesome right now. Even SajN took it like a champ when I told him not to derail my threads, but you're taking it like a pussy. So, yes spyder, go do what I told you to do a few post up and post your shitty opinions in threads more on your level.

Class, why is raping a child off limits... but murdering a grown man then raping his lifeless, dismembered body isn't?

And you would be ok with an adult female getting raped and tortured?

Not ok in the sense that you support it, but you support a websites right to post such material?

Okay, first off let me just say with cases like gruesomely murdering someone then raping the body I would be lenient and somewhat okay if there was an effort to ban that, I was just making the argument for gore sites as a whole. However, I'll try to explain why it's different.

Murder is illegal, and whoever makes those videos should definitely be punished a lot. I would support the death penalty but that's a different topic. Anyway, viewing a murder is not illegal. There isn't anything actually wrong with watching somebody get murdered, it just kind of makes you a sick fuck. With child porn, that's not the case. It's illegal to create, distribute, watch, post, etc, child porn. The point of making it is for the gratification of people to watch, that's the only reason the video was made. And that is illegal and wrong, therefore it should be banned in my eyes while the other stuff shouldn't necessarily be banned.

Child porn is illegal because sex with children is illegal. So is the rape of a grown woman or murder of a person. Watching child porn isn't the sickest part of it, it's the people who abuse children, film it and distribute it. Making a law against it is obviously to discourage its production by reducing its demand.

The same should be done with snuff films, it is the murder of a human being after all. I don't see what's more acceptable about watching someone get murdered, even if it wasn't gruesome like the one mentioned above. I think if there is a victim, like there is in child porn or rape or murder, the video should be made illegal. Creating a demand for videos like that gets people killed, in fact, the video 3 men 1 hammer was made for that very reason. They thought they could make money off the video because there was demand for it.

[classthe_king]

Spyder, you aren't even on topic, take it to PM. How can you justify warning me for saying get fucked and then turn around and say "fuck you"? Even when you try to be on topic your lack of intelligence and inability to grasp concepts is embarrassing. You can't offer any useful information so you warm someone like a little bitch. I can't believe a grown man would actually do that lmao. i bet you feel pretty fucking awesome right now. Even SajN took it like a champ when I told him not to derail my threads, but you're taking it like a pussy. So, yes spyder, go do what I told you to do a few post up and post your shitty opinions in threads more on your level.

Class, why is raping a child off limits... but murdering a grown man then raping his lifeless, dismembered body isn't?

And you would be ok with an adult female getting raped and tortured?

Not ok in the sense that you support it, but you support a websites right to post such material?

Okay, first off let me just say with cases like gruesomely murdering someone then raping the body I would be lenient and somewhat okay if there was an effort to ban that, I was just making the argument for gore sites as a whole. However, I'll try to explain why it's different.

Murder is illegal, and whoever makes those videos should definitely be punished a lot. I would support the death penalty but that's a different topic. Anyway, viewing a murder is not illegal. There isn't anything actually wrong with watching somebody get murdered, it just kind of makes you a sick fuck. With child porn, that's not the case. It's illegal to create, distribute, watch, post, etc, child porn. The point of making it is for the gratification of people to watch, that's the only reason the video was made. And that is illegal and wrong, therefore it should be banned in my eyes while the other stuff shouldn't necessarily be banned.

Child porn is illegal because sex with children is illegal. So is the rape of a grown woman or murder of a person. Watching child porn isn't the sickest part of it, it's the people who abuse children, film it and distribute it. Making a law against it is obviously to discourage its production by reducing its demand.

The same should be done with snuff films, it is the murder of a human being after all. I don't see what's more acceptable about watching someone get murdered, even if it wasn't gruesome like the one mentioned above. I think if there is a victim, like there is in child porn or rape or murder, the video should be made illegal. Creating a demand for videos like that gets people killed, in fact, the video 3 men 1 hammer was made for that very reason. They thought they could make money off the video because there was demand for it.

Child porn doesn't just mean the raping of a child. It could just be photographs of naked children with no sex involved.

I don't think there is a demand for snuff films and people are going to kill whether they can post videos of it or not.

[SliK]

There is a demand for snuff films though haven't you been to 4chan. There is shit all over the interest about gore and snuff. Obviously websites like rotten.con exist so there is a maket for it.

Can you ease explain exactly why it's not ok to post child porn (even a naked picture of a kid) but its fine to post a murder. It seems like these CP laws are in place to protect children, but I would rather my little girls naked picture appear online than for a video of her murder, if I HAD to choose.

[classthe_king]

There is a demand for snuff films though haven't you been to 4chan. There is shit all over the interest about gore and snuff. Obviously websites like rotten.con exist so there is a maket for it.

Can you ease explain exactly why it's not ok to post child porn (even a naked picture of a kid) but its fine to post a murder. It seems like these CP laws are in place to protect children, but I would rather my little girls naked picture appear online than for a video of her murder, if I HAD to choose.

Because the murder's filmed were going to happen anyway. It wasn't just to please the market. They were filmed for a different reason. Like that guy that cut his head cut off with a chainsaw, that was the mexican drug cartel trying to send a message, not provide gore for kids on 4chan. Cp, on the other hand, is made for that exact purpose.

[SliK]

Ok, that argument makes sense and I tend to agree with you
Why not say any illegal activities filmed specifically to generate Internet traffic? Why are children the only group that are protected?

[classthe_king]

Ok, that argument makes sense and I tend to agree with you
Why not say any illegal activities filmed specifically to generate Internet traffic? Why are children the only group that are protected?

I guess that law could work but I think in some cases it would be hard to decide what was filmed specifically generate internet traffic and what wasn't.

[Doodlebug]

The FCC allows the broadcast of certain content and network television chooses to censor the content of their shows to appease advertisers. There is no restriction to what can be said in music, particularly rap, yet albums are released censored so that a certain image can be maintained.

And the thing that bothers me about this is - how is saying a few swear words really going to hurt anyone? While look at some of the drama you see on TV shows... maybe not words but surely actions going on.

Then think about music. I used to listen to the sappy songs of self-pity, the lost love or he loves someone else songs. Trust me, these do over time mess with you. I got blue, I got sad and I'd tear up at some of the songs. It's like .. whoa... I had no idea what it was doing.

Then I found one song on YouTube of Eminem's and kinda started surfing around. Some were soo funny... but the energy - the realness the harshness of some.. so true to life.. is what got me.

I actually threw away my old CD's and changed my radio station to hip-hop and got some albums for my birthday...

I can't tell you what happened but over time, weaning off of the -oh poor me- songs, changed me. It's been about 9 months and when I change the radio station back to those old channels, wow... omg - I cant' handle those songs anymore - so .... depressing.

When I listen to hip hop and rap - its much like how we read. I can take the words at face value or I can see the deeper meaning.

My favorite is The Music Box and as odd as it sounds - I like it.

The cursing is nothing I've never heard before, and well - I really don't get the censorship at all. They need to let us pick and choose an you know.. I am an adult so..I'm pretty sure if I can drink, smoke and vote I can decide what to listen to.

I never liked anyone telling me what I can or cannot do in some cases - as if they know better than me. Let me decide..

As far as curse words harming younger ones.. yeah I'm sure they've never heard a curse word before... lol

[UofLCard]

I'm for and against difference apsecpts of censorship. I'm totally against the banning books, but I'm very pro-censorship on something like child pornography. Now, in the case that happened a couple years back of the book that was being sold on Amazon abour pro-pedophilia, I was completely taken aback and supported it being taken off the website.

[SliK]

I'm for and against difference apsecpts of censorship. I'm totally against the banning books, but I'm very pro-censorship on something like child pornography. Now, in the case that happened a couple years back of the book that was being sold on Amazon abour pro-pedophilia, I was completely taken aback and supported it being taken off the website.

Would you support a pro-murder book, or a pro-drugs book?