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9/11 Conspiracies

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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 2nd, '10, 16:14

Fa-Q wrote:And I have a question, whoever you think is responsible whether it be Bush or the owner of the WTC, don't you think the government could think of a better way to go to war. Maybe they capture some fake spies or something. But really, is their last resort to kill 3,000 people. On the other hand our enemy had reason to kill 3,000 people.


No, something of this magnitude had the entire country upset and ready to go to war, it had the same effect pearl harbor did. We needed not only a reason for ourselves to go to war and have the support of a country, as well as support from allies and an understanding and visible reason for the rest of the world.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Fa-Q » Jul 2nd, '10, 22:13

Yea Emville that's the reason but not the reason why Bush would need to go to war...what is his reasoning to go to war unless sand turns to Gold magically...oil is not the reason because the gas prices went up when we invaded
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 3rd, '10, 04:28

Fa-Q wrote:Yea Emville that's the reason but not the reason why Bush would need to go to war...what is his reasoning to go to war unless sand turns to Gold magically...oil is not the reason because the gas prices went up when we invaded


I'm glad you brought this up. Going to war allowed them to then go to war with Iraq, as they have all the oil. Remember, it wasn't long after 9/11 and we entered afghanistan, and then suddenly we focused on Iraq...and why was that? O, because they had the capabilities to build nuclear weapons, which later turned out to be bad intelligence, but remember we as a country were all for it because we needed to fight this war on terror, because of 9/11.

Also, Saddam tried to assassinate Bush's dad when he was in office... :coffee:
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Fa-Q » Jul 7th, '10, 11:12

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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 8th, '10, 12:45

I'm glad you posted that :y:

For one, I don't think the towers were brought down because of controlled demolition from videos of the towers. The reason I believe controlled demolitions were used was simply to make the clean up easier, I believe thermite was used to bring down the towers. This video did help me for one of my biggest complaints about the whole thing. The video says each floor collapsed onto itself "pulverizing concrete", how does a floor falling ten feet onto another floor turn the floor below it into dust? But the better question is, how does the floor that was turned into dust then pulverize the next floor?

What I'm saying is something I brought up before in this thread, the concrete in both buildings was for the most part completely turned into dust, but with just common sense I think you can easily see why that would be so hard to believe. The floors collapsing as fast as they did also makes this video seem completely wrong, or made by people also using no common sense. If a floor was to fall ten feet, and then put enough force on the floor below it to then push it down into the next floor, etc, with the pancaking described by this video, how did the towers collapse at almost free fall speed? To put this another way, what that insinuates is that the floors took literally no time to be effected by the floors above it's force, because if that were the case, there is no possible way the towers could have came down in the 10.3 or 10.9 seconds they both did.

Finally, if the pancaking theory were to be true, which would then negate the explosives, but still goes against science with how fast they fell, if they did really pancake, then the internal structure of the elevators would have remained standing. Obviously not 70 stories high, but not completely collapsed like they did. The reason being, the elevators and the steel structure was seperate from the floors, it was basically a structure with a building around it, so if the floors did pancake that structure would remain, since the floors would have no bearing on that structure.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Fa-Q » Jul 9th, '10, 13:23

The towers actually took about 17 seconds to fall...the 10 seconds you speak of are the timers from the sky views not the ground level. Second, the concrete was not turned to fine dust like the cloud of smoke you see when they fall. Most of the concrete is very visible in the wreckage a mixture of steel and concrete...look at the wreckage videos
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 9th, '10, 20:51

Fa-Q wrote:The towers actually took about 17 seconds to fall...the 10 seconds you speak of are the timers from the sky views not the ground level. Second, the concrete was not turned to fine dust like the cloud of smoke you see when they fall. Most of the concrete is very visible in the wreckage a mixture of steel and concrete...look at the wreckage videos


I know it was wasn't all turned to dust, I was exaggerating because the majority of it was, it was up to 4 inches thick on the streets covering the entire peninsula. But you're short rebuttle was enough anyway :coffee:
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Fa-Q » Jul 10th, '10, 07:05

Emadyville wrote:
Fa-Q wrote:The towers actually took about 17 seconds to fall...the 10 seconds you speak of are the timers from the sky views not the ground level. Second, the concrete was not turned to fine dust like the cloud of smoke you see when they fall. Most of the concrete is very visible in the wreckage a mixture of steel and concrete...look at the wreckage videos


I know it was wasn't all turned to dust, I was exaggerating because the majority of it was, it was up to 4 inches thick on the streets covering the entire peninsula. But you're short rebuttle was enough anyway :coffee:

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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 11th, '10, 02:05

Until you start giving evidence that I'm wrong...I have to be that way
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Fa-Q » Jul 11th, '10, 05:16

Emadyville wrote:Until you start giving evidence that I'm wrong...I have to be that way

I just gave you two videos disproving two of your claims and you did not disprove them. The claims you had had no evidence just words
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby bonitaT » Jul 23rd, '10, 21:55

Shadysapathy wrote:
MikeNufc wrote:
Shadysapathy wrote:Bush did this shit.

Fancy giving any reasons for such a strong statement?



I think Bush paid a lot of money to Osama and his Gang.
I mean how could some buildings just fall into each other ...it´s impossible that it´s only the fault of the planes.
There´s definitely something strange and Bush has something to do with this.


^^this :y: also bush and osamas family go back,,some oil company
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 24th, '10, 00:27

^^ nah it's the saudi's you're thinking of, but when Reagen was in office, or Carter, or some president gave them weapons, lots of them to fight whoever it was they were fighting in the 80's
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby 97Civic » Jul 24th, '10, 07:08

Emadyville wrote:^^ nah it's the saudi's you're thinking of, but when Reagen was in office, or Carter, or some president gave them weapons, lots of them to fight whoever it was they were fighting in the 80's

Reagan gave the Taliban the wepons to fight the Soviet's with in the 80's which are the same weapons they are using today
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jul 26th, '10, 03:41

97Civic wrote:
Emadyville wrote:^^ nah it's the saudi's you're thinking of, but when Reagen was in office, or Carter, or some president gave them weapons, lots of them to fight whoever it was they were fighting in the 80's

Reagan gave the Taliban the wepons to fight the Soviet's with in the 80's which are the same weapons they are using today


That's it! thanks for clarifying what I said :y:
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Evan C. » Jul 27th, '10, 12:36

Anyone who believes 9/11 was an "inside job" is simply an idiot and a lunatic, and gives the US Government entirely too much credit.
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