Gay Marches

[Fleka]

Nice one. I`m still right.

[mdemaz]

This whole thing is a touchy subject, so I'd rather not get involved, but I agree with most of the previous posts in this thread, although, people should have the opportunity to express themselves and marches do that, but I also accept the fact that marches draw more attention to gays which can be a negative thing.

I ain't met or become friends many gay people in my life, but the ones I have seen are just normal dudes, they don't stand out, it's the wackos down south that do, lol.

[the real slim shady]

inb4someonecomingout

i thought you and emma had already?

Why we are onto rights of gay people i dont know but i dont get why they would have different rights to other people because they are people. So same rights for them... I know the church is touchy on gay marriage but what can ya' do about that?

[MikeNUFC]

Why we are onto rights of gay people i dont know but i dont get why they would have different rights to other people because they are people. So same rights for them... I know the church is touchy on gay marriage but what can ya' do about that?

Try and get the law to change. You know, like women did. Like black people did. Why didn't those groups just say 'what can you do about it?' and move on, I wonder. Idiot.

Male body is not meant for reciving a cock. Sex has a purpose, perpetuate the specie. Men can`t get pregnant. Unnatural.
And I`m not comparing pedophilia, zoophilia to homosexuality. I`m just saying that, if gays march around asking for rights, and homosexulity is not normal and natural, why wouldn`t other not-normal and natural groups of people do the same.
UNDERSTAND WHAT I`M SAYING ALLREADY.

Homosexuality is normal. It's not a choice. Please tell me when you chose to be straight? You didn't? Right. Bang goes that shit argument.

Animals don't have a say in what a human does to them. 8 year olds aren't mature enough to know whether they're 'in love' with a 45 year old or not. What a fucking ridiculous comment.

I agree that a gay couple could be great as parents. But it`s not a normal and natural situation. And the rest of the world can be cruel. We went off topic. Gay marches are unnecessary. Go to some field or a stadium, have you pride-march-show-thing and leave others be. What if we, Eminem fans blocked the the streets because we love Eminem?

Yes, because Eminem fans are discriminated against in society and in law, aren't they? Are you really this fucking stupid?

[the real slim shady]

wow, really?You just take one line of my post out of context and reply. That's just awesome. Like i said in my post, im for gay marriage, but here in England at least, the majority of people and the government are opposed to Gay marriage being allowed. I thought you were from england, do you ever read papers and stuff like that? I was reading about a group of gay people protesting against Gay marriage, explain how a minority can go against that when some of the minority arent even supporting the movement? Yes i know this is similar to Black people or Womens rights and voting, but i just dont see what can be done, hence what i said.

As for the instant aggressive response from you... wow, im sure that seemed necessary from your point of view but it wasnt. Someone is on your side in an arguement but they say one thing you dont like and suddenly they are an enemy.

[Fleka]

Pedophilia is also not a choice. Please tell me when did you chose to be or not to be a pedophile. Bang back.

I`m just saying that gay marches are unnecessary. I used pedophiles like an example of a group of people that do something that isn`t normal and demand their rights. I already posted about North American Man/Boy Love Association, and some kind of Belgium Pedophile Union/Party that asked to lower the sex age limit from 14 to 12 years old. If you give rights to gays it`s only a matter of time when pedophiles will get theirs. All they need to do is march around. Politicians will gain votes by backing them up just like they do with gays now. Where does it end?

[12characters]

Oh God, Fleka. You set yourself up with that pedophile stuff. He already stated

8 year olds aren't mature enough to know whether they're 'in love' with a 45 year old or not. What a fucking ridiculous comment.

I want to know how he responds.
Wait, what if you scared him off... DAMMIT FLEKA!

[MikeNUFC]

wow, really?You just take one line of my post out of context and reply. That's just awesome. Like i said in my post, im for gay marriage, but here in England at least, the majority of people and the government are opposed to Gay marriage being allowed. I thought you were from england, do you ever read papers and stuff like that? I was reading about a group of gay people protesting against Gay marriage, explain how a minority can go against that when some of the minority arent even supporting the movement? Yes i know this is similar to Black people or Womens rights and voting, but i just dont see what can be done, hence what i said.

As for the instant aggressive response from you... wow, im sure that seemed necessary from your point of view but it wasnt. Someone is on your side in an arguement but they say one thing you dont like and suddenly they are an enemy.

Errr, you do realise gay marriage is legal here right? A load of Conservative MPs are against it. But that's because they're backward thinking morons. Gay marches for legalise marriage is in America. Gay marches here are more for raising awareness of discrimination.

In the early/mid 1900s, there were certain sections of the African American community happy to settle for what they had, instead of pushing on for full equal rights (this was mainly out of fear, admittely). Same with women (although that was more to do with how they'd be told how to behave).

I don't care if you're gay and against gay marriage. Or if you're straight and against gay marriage. Either way you're against equal rights.

Pedophilia is also not a choice. Please tell me when did you chose to be or not to be a pedophile. Bang back.

Some people are naturally attracted to younger children (not all, in a lot of the cases it is a choice). But because young children aren't sexually or mentally matured, it's obviously (and rightly) seen as morally and legally wrong.

I`m just saying that gay marches are unnecessary. I used pedophiles like an example of a group of people that do something that isn`t normal and demand their rights. I already posted about North American Man/Boy Love Association, and some kind of Belgium Pedophile Union/Party that asked to lower the sex age limit from 14 to 12 years old. If you give rights to gays it`s only a matter of time when pedophiles will get theirs. All they need to do is march around. Politicians will gain votes by backing them up just like they do with gays now. Where does it end?

Stop comparing paedophiles to homosexuals. It's absolutely idiotic.

[the real slim shady]

Either way you're against equal rights.

This is purely curiosity now, can you just show me where i said that, or where i said something that makes it seem i am against equal rights? I honestly don't get why you are saying that. Or were you not saing it directly about me?

[MikeNUFC]

Either way you're against equal rights.

This is purely curiosity now, can you just show me where i said that, or where i said something that makes it seem i am against equal rights? I honestly don't get why you are saying that. Or were you not saing it directly about me?

Now who's taking a line out of context? I didn't mean you directly. See the two sentences before.

[the real slim shady]

Either way you're against equal rights.

This is purely curiosity now, can you just show me where i said that, or where i said something that makes it seem i am against equal rights? I honestly don't get why you are saying that. Or were you not saing it directly about me?

Now who's taking a line out of context? I didn't mean you directly. See the two sentences before.

yeah ok i got that bit wrong, sorry. I wasnt sure what you meant, thats why i asked.

Fleka you might want to think about what you're saying here, im not gonna get involved but as much as there is some logic to what you're saying... Paedophillia and stuff like that is a bit extreme. Might want to find a different thing to compare homosexuality with.

Anyway im out, i dont see any point carrying on here, its just a load of people wth unchanging opinions trying to convince each other of how they are wrong.

[Fleka]

How is pedophilia a choice? You call people stupid and than you post some seriously stupid shit. Do you get turned on by little boys and girls? Could you make yourself get turned on by them? Come on. And read the fucking title of the organisation "North American Man/Boy Love Association".

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophile and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors...

Pederasty or paederasty (US: /ˈpɛdəræsti/, UK: /ˈpiːdəræsti/) is a (usually erotic) relationship between an older man and an adolescent boy outside his immediate family.


NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships." According to the NAMBLA, some of the organization's primary positions are:
Supporting and promoting man/boy relationships: they hold that when consensual these relationships are not harmful or child sexual abuse. One study they cite is the controversial Rind et al. paper.
Age-of-consent reform: what NAMBLA describes as "empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual."

Let them march and give them rights. They already have an organisation, lawyers...

[Fleka]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Amer ... ssociation

Events such as Anita Bryant's "Save Our Children" campaign in 1977, and a police raid of Toronto-area gay newspaper The Body Politic for publishing "Men Loving Boys Loving Men" set the stage for the founding of NAMBLA.[5]
In December 1977, police raided a house in the Boston suburb of Revere. Twenty-four men were arrested and indicted on over 100 felony counts of the statutory rape of boys aged eight to fifteen. Suffolk County District Attorney Garrett Byrne found that the men used drugs and video games to lure the boys into a house, where they photographed them as they engaged in sexual activity. The men were members of a "sex ring", and said that the arrest was only "the tip of the iceberg."[5] The arrests sparked intense media coverage, and local newspapers published the photographs and personal information of the accused men. The "Boston-Boise Committee", a gay rights organization, formed in response to these events and to protect the "rights of gay men" and promote "gay solidarity." NAMBLA's founding was inspired by this gay rights organization.[15] It was co-founded by the gay historian David Thorstad.[16]

Like I said, gay marches are just the tip of a fucking iceberg.

I got nothing against gays. There are idiots, criminals, pedophiles and child molesters in gay, hetero, white, black, Asian male and female population. Just like there are amazing people in all those groups.
The world is not yet ready for gay couples with children. And marches are unnecessary. There are better ways through education, support groups and stuff like that... Blocking streets is a call for violence and invading peoples lives.

[MikeNUFC]

-Spends 3 posts comparing homosexuality and paedophilia
-I'M NOT COMPARING THE TWO

In most cases, it's a natural turn on. But there are cases where it's a choice. People like the power or the control, for example.

Either way, I've established why it's stupid to even bring it up. Homosexuality doesn't cause the same issues that paedophilia raises. It's totally irrelevant to the topic.

[Alex2012]

inb4someonecomingout

i thought you and emma had already?

I bet gays and lesbians are not the same for you

Why we are onto rights of gay people i dont know but i dont get why they would have different rights to other people because they are people. So same rights for them... I know the church is touchy on gay marriage but what can ya' do about that?

then the purpose of gay marches, do you really think they do that to make people liking or accepting them better...it's rather to get more rights from all governments like all protest marches do.

and like MikeNUFC said in the other thread , that's not being sitting on their ass they can get something.