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Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

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Should a mosque be (allowed to be) built 2 blocks from ground zero?

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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby mcZu » Oct 30th, '10, 19:26

WhatsAnEnigma wrote:
mcZu wrote:That's stupid, and do you know why? Because that's like you're saying muslims did it. They didn't. And a lot of muslims died on that day too. Meaning there are more than enough muslims who lost someone in that attack. Sensitivity? Why don't we start protesting against churches being built in America? I'm sure someone who's living near those churches lost a loved one because he got killed by a christian. Any random mugger or murderer could be a christian, but you don't see those people blame christianity. The religion didn't attack those people, the people that are following that religion didn't attack those people. The people who did attack those people were terrorists.


Then who committed the attacks?

There's a difference between a Christian killing someone and a Radical Muslim killing out of religious ideals, which you mentioned but also forgot that they are radicals of Islam. You're argument is invalid. The Radicals claim the lesser Jihad and take it to extremes as a means of offensive warfare.

I'm done trying to argue with you as I could care less to change your opinion, you can believe whatever you want, I'm just stating my opinion, which in this case is true. They claim the lesser Jihad, if you don't believe that then go look it up or watch the special where Bin Laden says "We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us."

I believe that Muhammad doesn't want his own followers killing themselves, but they are radicals, and I understand the difference between the two but they're still a sector inside of Islam.

You're done trying to argue with me? We haven't even started.... There have been a lot of serial killers who killed out of religious Christian ideas. So, no, you're argument is invalid. It is not a sector inside of Islam, it has nothing to do with Islam. It is a idealogy on its own, claiming to be part of a religion. And I could care less what Bin Laden says, especially since he had/has close ties with the Bush family.

And even if what you said was true, let's assume it is, it still doesn't justify the argument of building a mosque near ground zero being unsensitive. Because a mosque has nothing to do with radical people blowing themselves up.
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby WhatsAnEnigma » Nov 2nd, '10, 01:59

The Radicals are Islam Extremists. I could give a fck about you backing them up, when you're the one who had family killed in a tower by Terrorists out of the lesser Jihad taken to extremities then I'll consider what you say, otherwise you're just rambling on and I don't care to argue with someone like you as it's pointless and a waste of my time beyond what's necessary.

They want to build a mosque, where people of the Islam faith go, in the vicinity of a place where many of all kinds lost their lives to Radical Muslims, regardless if you believe they were or not I'm sure most agree on that. You can say what you want about America trying to demonize their image. As I posted either here or elsewhere a Saudi Prince from the UAE even said it was best not to, and that they were practically trying to cram the Mosque into a crowded place where there's a more fitting place elsewhere. Oh but the U.S. paid him to say that.. :flutter:
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby mcZu » Nov 3rd, '10, 19:13

I couldn't care less about a Saudi prince. It's nothing but a fallacy; if a Saudi prince says something, that doesn't make it true. just 'cause ''he's a muslim, therefore muslims think it should be better not to built it there''. Unvalid argument.

And define the vicinity in this case, I'm sure you know it's around 4 - 5 blocks away, right? It's not even visible from Ground Zero. So, what, you just want them to stop building mosques in New York 'cause it's in the vicinity of ground zero? Plus, they're building, at that exact area, new buildings again, isn't that unsentimental? There goes the memorial, back to turning it into money making area. But, no, a mosque, that is being built 5 blocks away, is unsentimental and not thoughtful with regard to the people who lost someone on that day.
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby Ticalrecords » Nov 8th, '10, 04:03

WhatsAnEnigma wrote:
I'm done trying to argue with you as I could care less to change your opinion, you can believe whatever you want, I'm just stating my opinion, which in this case is true.


:facepalm really now? what type of ignorant shit is that? its that kind of mentality that will forever keep America from progressing towards tolerating difference. you're not even willing to discuss the topic? yea god forbid you actually even consider changing your mind.

as far as this ground zero fiasco i think its hilarious - i bet some muslims were chillin n fuckin around n thought it be a great idea to see how riled up America gets at a trivial detail like how far away a Mosque can be built from Ground Zero. this is some shit Jerry Seinfeld would think of, yk wut im saying?

foreal though, who the fuck cares? the center (it aint even a mosque, so why the fuck is erryone getting their pantys in a bunch) isnt even in view of Ground Zero!

and ya cant give all that bullshit about how we couldnt build a church in israel or Saudi Arabia or wherever. those are Theocracys. last time i checked, America is a democracy. and thats why Muslims shouldnt have to deal with this bullshit.
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby AnalKiddo » Nov 10th, '10, 06:49

Of course.

If it were a Church or a Temple being built shit wouldn't be said but a Mosque seems to pose a problem?

But on the other hand I can see that building it there will probably get Muslims in there hurt, seeing on t.v the retards that live in that city I'd expect them to be breaking window

But on the note of building it, it's their rights.
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby Bistnal » Nov 12th, '10, 04:13

AnalKiddo wrote:Of course.

If it were a Church or a Temple being built shit wouldn't be said but a Mosque seems to pose a problem?

But on the other hand I can see that building it there will probably get Muslims in there hurt, seeing on t.v the retards that live in that city I'd expect them to be breaking window

But on the note of building it, it's their rights.

Thing is, it's not even a full mosque. It's more of a grand community center with one section/floor of it being designated for prayer. So imo, people are way overreacting...even if it was a full mosque, it still shouldn't be a big deal.
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby the real slim shady » Jan 12th, '11, 23:24

I think there isnt a big problem apart from the massive anger and danger it will create. There will be people that will be pretty upset (and with good reason) if it is built, but I guess it is their right to build it there.

(yes im English, but please dont think that means i dont know anything about america and its people, this is just my opinion.)
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Re: Should a Mosque be built near ground zero?

Postby Graphic » Apr 10th, '11, 20:45

Welll... :facepalm
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