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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Oct 19th, '14, 09:23

CanadaPure wrote:
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OP didn't ask for nyquil albums tho

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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby boonim » Oct 19th, '14, 09:32

Mr Change wrote:relapse m8


TL;DR: I have listened to Relapse (for my personal taste, it's a difficult album, content-wise). I think the production, atmosphere, rhyming/lyrics/imagery are all on point for the most part. But unfortunately, I feel it falls short as a concept album :( .

This is supposed to be about a person (Em) who thinks he has just beaten addiction to hard drugs, but actually falls into a murderous relapse. This much is clear from the very first skit. What makes it really chilling is that the addiction is making him think/"remember"/hallucinate(?) some very dark thoughts, but he is not worried about these thoughts. He treats them in an almost casual, quirky manner ("oh...just seemed to have killed someone...oh well too bad I don't remember"). 3AM captures this mood perfectly. And hearing the next two songs, My Mom and Insane, we expect that he is going to tell a very distorted, dark history of his life, but still in a quirky/casual way (mom feeding him drugs, stepfather molesting him). But then it falls apart a bit -- there is no continuation of this story any more from Bagpipes from Baghdad to Must be the ganja. Some songs capture bits and pieces of his thoughts (SWA, SSD). Three songs -- We made you, Old Times' sake and Must be the ganja (I enjoy this song a lot) -- don't seem to belong at all (they are not about hard drugs anymore, but recreational drugs).

The closing again starts off in a powerful way -- Deja Vu still continues that casual tone about a serious life-threatening addiction and captures the thoughts of an addict in a creative and accurate way. But then, Beautiful is him reflecting back on his depression and his resolve to be better. It would fit perfectly, but the tone of this song absolutely does not fit the rest of the album -- this is a super serious song, not quirky. And the rest...well...

Perhaps someone else has a different perspective -- would be great to enjoy this album as a whole!
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Elision » Oct 19th, '14, 09:51



tech did this full rock project last year, it dropped the same day as mmlp2 (happened to be my birthday as well so it was a good one) so it got swept under the rug. solid stuff though for sure, sounds really natural like it's his primary genre.
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby boonim » Oct 19th, '14, 14:21

TheGentlePlayer wrote:Masta Ace, Disposable Arts is just wow!!

Rafael wrote:Disposable Arts is probably the second best hip hop album of all time.. Behind maybe ATLiens imo


Just gave Disposable Arts a full listen. I like the sound of it and there are a lot of insightful and story telling songs that I liked. Need to give it multiple listens. A couple of songs there (Dear Diary, No regrets) are similar to Em's flows on SSLP, I thought -- Masta Ace's influence on Em is clear there :) .

But, also a bit confused about what exactly a "concept album" is. I thought it would be a "story" like in GKMC. And while Disposable Arts has many skits which stick to the story line (freshly released from jail, going back to "school", etc.), I'm not sure all the songs are advancing or revolving around this story line. Thoughts?

Also if anyone knows of an article or thread where this album has been critically analyzed let me know. Definitely want to know more and wikipedia and Google search didn't turn up much.
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Rafael » Oct 19th, '14, 15:23

Disposable Arts is the story of the everyday events in the life of a man who was released from prison and trying to adapt to everyday life. He later enrolls in the Disposable Arts institute for hip hop after he sees how bad Brooklyn is doing.

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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Eedee » Oct 20th, '14, 02:47

CanadaPure wrote:
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OP didn't ask for nyquil albums tho


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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby shadyblogger » Oct 20th, '14, 03:00

What the heck is a NyQuil album?
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Eedee » Oct 20th, '14, 03:29

Blogs McGooch wrote:What the heck is a NyQuil album?


I'll assume it means it puts you to sleep. :y:
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby shadyblogger » Oct 20th, '14, 03:35

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Blogs McGooch wrote:What the heck is a NyQuil album?


I'll assume it means it puts you to sleep. :y:


Oh I see :zipped:
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Eedee » Oct 20th, '14, 03:39

Blogs McGooch wrote:
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Blogs McGooch wrote:What the heck is a NyQuil album?


I'll assume it means it puts you to sleep. :y:


Oh I see :zipped:


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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby shadyblogger » Oct 20th, '14, 03:52

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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby Eedee » Oct 20th, '14, 04:00

Blogs McGooch wrote:Wake up


Sorry, I put on BTI and I fell asleep. :spank:
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby shadyblogger » Oct 20th, '14, 04:04

Eedee wrote:
Blogs McGooch wrote:Wake up


Sorry, I put on BTI and I fell asleep. :spank:


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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby boonim » Oct 20th, '14, 05:06

Hesky wrote:I've never really been a big fan of concept albums, although I do enjoy listening to The Minstrel Show from time to time :y:

I suppose it all depends on how well the concept is executed, and whether or not it becomes monotonous and worn out over the course of the album.

What do you think of GKMC as a story-telling album? I thought the skits at the end of every song really worked well and kept the story moving nicely.
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Re: Concept albums in rap

Postby boonim » Oct 24th, '14, 07:17

bigray wrote:nice thread!

Yes. Not only are there some great suggestions. But also:
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Rafael wrote:Disposable Arts is probably the second best hip hop album of all time.. Behind maybe ATLiens imo

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Sorry, I put on BTI and I fell asleep. :spank:

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