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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby 97Civic » Jun 23rd, '10, 01:36

Emadyville wrote:
97Civic wrote:In the end, unless substancial evidence and testimony from witnesses, there will never be a deffentive answer to if 9/11 was an inside job or not.

But, we should always open our minds to different opinions and thoughts.



Condelezza rice admitted to congress they had information about terrorist attacks, which would support the "they let it happen" theory.
As well as the man with dick cheney, who admitted to congress dick cheney had a stand down on the planes that could have shot down the "hijacked" planes.

Altho i know i already mentioned it in this topic :coffee:

I wasn't talking about them having information on the attacks before hand. I meant that someone on the inside was actually in charge of the whole operation.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jun 23rd, '10, 02:02

^^ yeah, they did have information tho. I feel they aided the terrorists, but didn't do it themselves :y:
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby 97Civic » Jun 23rd, '10, 05:42

Emadyville wrote:^^ yeah, they did have information tho. I feel they aided the terrorists, but didn't do it themselves :y:

When you say "they" do you have specific people in mind?
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jun 23rd, '10, 23:33

97Civic wrote:
Emadyville wrote:^^ yeah, they did have information tho. I feel they aided the terrorists, but didn't do it themselves :y:

When you say "they" do you have specific people in mind?


Not Bush specifically, but from the information that has came out, I feel like Dick Cheney had something to with it, considering he told the planes not to shoot down the hijacked planes :whistle:
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby mrjizzbomber » Jun 24th, '10, 01:18

Emadyville wrote:
97Civic wrote:
Emadyville wrote:^^ yeah, they did have information tho. I feel they aided the terrorists, but didn't do it themselves :y:

When you say "they" do you have specific people in mind?


Not Bush specifically, but from the information that has came out, I feel like Dick Cheney had something to with it, considering he told the planes not to shoot down the hijacked planes :whistle:


Well, 99% of the time a hijacking is not terrorism (at least pre-9/11, I don't think anyone would dare hijack a plane anymore). The idea of a hijacking is ransom.

It would be reckless to shoot a plane full of people down unless there is direct knowledge of terrorist activity. I don't think Cheney would have had that knowledge when making that order.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby 97Civic » Jun 24th, '10, 07:21

Yeah I mean think of the back lash..

"The US Air Force shoots down 3 commercial planes full of people"
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jun 27th, '10, 17:34

97Civic wrote:Yeah I mean think of the back lash..

"The US Air Force shoots down 3 commercial planes full of people"


it was after the first plane hit and they knew it was intentional, jesus christ you people are stupid :facepalm
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby mrjizzbomber » Jun 27th, '10, 21:15

Emadyville wrote:
97Civic wrote:Yeah I mean think of the back lash..

"The US Air Force shoots down 3 commercial planes full of people"


it was after the first plane hit and they knew it was intentional, jesus christ you people are stupid :facepalm


I think you are trivializing the concept of shooting down a commercial airliner, and ignoring the chaos that was going on at the time.

Hindsight is 20/20.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jun 28th, '10, 00:01

^^ No, no, I swear everyone responding other than embase awhile ago is either not understanding what I am saying, completely ignoring what I am saying, or assuming I am a complete idiot. All seem viable since everything I say receives pointless, uninformed responses. I should just stop posting in this topic, in fact I'll try.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby 97Civic » Jun 28th, '10, 04:33

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97Civic wrote:Yeah I mean think of the back lash..

"The US Air Force shoots down 3 commercial planes full of people"


it was after the first plane hit and they knew it was intentional, jesus christ you people are stupid :facepalm

Um I'm not disagreeing with your posts..and I see eye to eye with you on your opinion on this issue dude, but can you honestly say that there wouldn't be a back lash if they would have shot down those jets? Not saying that they shouldn't have shot them down, In fact they should have. But there would have been a huge out cry if they would have.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby M15HKA » Jun 28th, '10, 14:59

They didn't shoot shit down etc they knew what was happening though. It seemed all very convenient for the Political ambitions of the U.S government at the time. They are not stupid to be directly involved with it but smart enough to be be indirectly involved at a high level.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby Emadyville » Jun 28th, '10, 20:09

97Civic wrote:
Emadyville wrote:
97Civic wrote:Yeah I mean think of the back lash..

"The US Air Force shoots down 3 commercial planes full of people"


it was after the first plane hit and they knew it was intentional, jesus christ you people are stupid :facepalm

Um I'm not disagreeing with your posts..and I see eye to eye with you on your opinion on this issue dude, but can you honestly say that there wouldn't be a back lash if they would have shot down those jets? Not saying that they shouldn't have shot them down, In fact they should have. But there would have been a huge out cry if they would have.


Not as big as out cry as there have been for the entire 9/11 truth movement :whistle:
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby 97Civic » Jun 28th, '10, 23:25

I guess we shall never know.

But I think the truthers forget about who the victims are. We as citizens were not and are not victims of that day. The people who died are.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby mrjizzbomber » Jun 29th, '10, 04:06

Satans_Chef wrote:They didn't shoot shit down etc they knew what was happening though. It seemed all very convenient for the Political ambitions of the U.S government at the time. They are not stupid to be directly involved with it but smart enough to be be indirectly involved at a high level.


See, this is my problem with these conspiracy theories. Everything presented is circumstantial evidence. This is not proof of anything, its just evidence to support a theory.
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Re: 9/11 Conspiracies

Postby mrjizzbomber » Jun 29th, '10, 04:08

Or, to phrase it differently...

If this was really a government conspiracy / plot... there would be more than just circumstantial evidence to prove it. There would be SOME SORT of concrete evidence. They are the government, they are extremely fallible, and this would be an enormously complex plot. For something this big, for NO concrete evidence to have came up... none at all (all the evidence is circumstantial), it is unreasonable to think it was indeed a conspiracy.

And in a nutshell, that is all I'm really saying. I do NOT think that the investigation was properly handled, I do NOT think the response and reaction was appropriate, and I do NOT think that the preparation, particularly considering the warning signs, was acceptable (there IS concrete evidence of the early warnings). But a government plot? Gimme a break!
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