Pedophilia - A Disorder?

[Jaz]

Anyone 21+ that tries to fuck someone under 13 should be killed, then they can call death their disorder instead.


For older than 13 the current laws seem to be good enough I think.

As for it actually being a disorder, I disagree.. Attraction and action are two different things. I'm 21 and could find girls attractive that are 15 or 16.. but would I act on that? No. I would go for women my age, or at least close.

I didn't actually read most of what you wrote, because well, I don't care.. but I disagree nonetheless.. and if it were true I would feel no differently about the subject anyway.

Hell, anyone who doesn't think it's wrong should probably face jail time just for the thought.

[One Mic]

Just been on this "age of consent" website, and was surprised to find out that you can have sex legally in Spain, at the age of 13 years old.

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

It's crazy how much it varies from state to state, in America.

[Block]

To be honest, we put too much emphasis on sex. The whole '18 years old' idea is actually very young. Not young as in age, but young as in just thought of recently; As in the last, what, -100 years.. Middle eastern countries, and some asian countries, still have pre-arranged marriages at the ages of like 10. (I'm not sure the exact age, but it's young). I'm not saying I'm attracted to young girls, but we put way too much emphasis on sex and sexual laws. If a girl concents, and is in the right mind to do so, I don't see the problem with it if the ages are reasonable. I mean, a 30 yr old man having sex with a 15 yr old girl is obviously outrageous. But an 18 year old guy having sex with a 15 year old girl? What's wrong with that?

[One Mic]

"I mean, a 30 yr old man having sex with a 15 yr old girl is obviously outrageous. But an 18 year old guy having sex with a 15 year old girl? What's wrong with that?"

^ I can see where you are coming from and I sort of agree....but I would not have sex with a 15 year old girl (I'm 19). I wouldn't have done it when I was 18 either.

16 is the age of consent in my country (UK)

The consequences of doing so is just not worth it; you would be branded a "paedophile" or a sex offender, and would no doubt be on file, on the police database, and possibly the sex offenders register. Your life would never the same again.

But then, that 15 year old girl could turn 16 the next week, and have sex with a 40 year old man. And whilst that would be socially looked down on, and frowned upon, it would be perfectly legal. Just shows you the thin line.

[Alia]

I mean, a 30 yr old man having sex with a 15 yr old girl is obviously outrageous. But an 18 year old guy having sex with a 15 year old girl? What's wrong with that?

Just to play devil's advocate here, if the girl is old enough to decide if she wants to have sex with a partner, is it really any of our business how old her partner is? Sure, our culture looks down upon large age gaps in relationships, but not too long ago a 30 year old man marrying a 15 year old girl was common practice. (Oddly, things are beginning to go the other way now, young men are marrying older women. E.g. Aaron Johnson, 19, married Sam Taylor Wood, 43! )

Now to question if a 15 yr old really is old enough to make the decision of an intimate relationship, that's something else.

[mdemaz]

Imo its a taboo in society and seeing its treated like one instead of a disorder it should be condemned; But hey....People have other opinions.

[Evan C.]

If you are attracted to a female that is prepubescent, you are a pedophile. Simple as that. If she's developed physically, and isn't being forced into anything, then whatever. This whole "innocent virginal goddess" thing with women is an outdated stereotype. A 19-20-21 (whatever) year old male having sex with a female who is 14, 15, 16 (whatever) isn't necessarily wrong. People forget that women develop faster than men do sexually.

As far as male/male and female/female sex goes, same rules apply. It isn't that hard IMO to determine whether a person is prepubescent or not.

Besides, it isn't exactly like age is the tell all in terms of maturity. There are 15 year olds who are more intelligent and rational than 30 year olds.

[toxicbuffy]

as much as i hate these fuckers , i got to say its a disorder. I cannot see how a person would do this, but just like being gay its a disease. Now the question is, why don't these people get help b4 they commint such a sick act? They do know its wrong.... Anyways the world is fucked thats all i gotta say.

[macdaddy019967]

If you're attracted to children, you ought to be burned at the stake....but then again I'm against homosexuals, bisexuals, transsexuals, bestiality, and necrophilia....call me old fashioned

same here

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[Emadyville]

as much as i hate these fuckers , i got to say its a disorder. I cannot see how a person would do this, but just like being gay its a disease. Now the question is, why don't these people get help b4 they commint such a sick act? They do know its wrong.... Anyways the world is fucked thats all i gotta say.

being gay is a disease

I have a few gay friends, guys and girls, and believe me they do not "have a disease"

[toxicbuffy]

as much as i hate these fuckers , i got to say its a disorder. I cannot see how a person would do this, but just like being gay its a disorder Now the question is, why don't these people get help b4 they commint such a sick act? They do know its wrong.... Anyways the world is fucked thats all i gotta say.

being gay is a disease

I have a few gay friends, guys and girls, and believe me they do not "have a disease"

me too i have gay friends....
I did not mean it by a disease, i meant it as a disorder. Im sorry if i offended anyone.
i edited it

[EminemBase]

as much as i hate these fuckers , i got to say its a disorder. I cannot see how a person would do this, but just like being gay its a disease. Now the question is, why don't these people get help b4 they commint such a sick act? They do know its wrong.... Anyways the world is fucked thats all i gotta say.

being gay is a disease

I have a few gay friends, guys and girls, and believe me they do not "have a disease"

Well actually, just as I went into all that in the original post - Being gay is or could at least be correctly / loosely defined as a disease. It means that two people who are sexually attracted too each other (two men / two women) - cannot create offspring.

There is nothing more unnatural, more detrimental to the human race and which could be defined more as a disease - to the species, than that. So as offensive as you may find it, logically speaking, you could absolutely call it that. Doesn't mean you need to TREAT it as such. Or, more comfortably - a disorder.

Now again, that doesn't mean we should treat it as a disorder or consider these people needing treatment or inferior. Which is the implication most people apply and there for take offence to the very word itself.

But the fact 1 in 10 people are gay shows it's not an evenly common variant and the fact it's impossible to produce offspring with two partners of the same sex proves it's a disorder. If all humans were gay, the species would die out.

So whilst you might not like to call it that, that's what it is. And again, doesn't mean I consider gay people sick or weird and politically and philosophically we should treat them the same as everybody else. Just like we should treat ALL people (in practice).

But having a sexual preference for members of the same sex, therefore perverting the natural course of intercourse and continuation of gene replication (Evolution's only 'goal') - It cannot be called natural in that context at all. It's natural only in the sense that gay people do not choose to be gay, it's natural in its state just like somebody who has Autism is naturally autistic - they didn't create the autism.

But being gay could absolutely and in reality, is a disorder / disease. It may very well be one of the natural population control defenses of natural selection, along with diseases which actually kill human beings by the millions. If every human alive could and did reproduce Earth would overflow.

There has to be a natural backlash / what goes up must come down and so on. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So maybe 1 in 10 people (roughly speaking) being gay and therefore unable to reproduce (unless they ignore sexual desire) - Maybe that is a natural defense that has continued to remain in the gene-pool for that reason. To react against our sheer level of non-stop reproduction and survival.

[Tornado]

"I mean, a 30 yr old man having sex with a 15 yr old girl is obviously outrageous. But an 18 year old guy having sex with a 15 year old girl? What's wrong with that?"

^ I can see where you are coming from and I sort of agree....but I would not have sex with a 15 year old girl (I'm 19). I wouldn't have done it when I was 18 either.

16 is the age of consent in my country (UK)

The consequences of doing so is just not worth it; you would be branded a "paedophile" or a sex offender, and would no doubt be on file, on the police database, and possibly the sex offenders register. Your life would never the same again.

But then, that 15 year old girl could turn 16 the next week, and have sex with a 40 year old man. And whilst that would be socially looked down on, and frowned upon, it would be perfectly legal. Just shows you the thin line.

That's the problem with Society's Laws, too many of them are based on people's morals. I mean, what's the difference if someone had sex with a 15 Year old girl to say if someone ha sex with a 16 year old? How is that a major difference? Shit, I've seen 17 year old chicks not clued up about sex, and they're allowed to? That itself makes that law a mockery. But of course, it's how mainstream society defines it in the media how most people (sheep) define it. And plus you get these old Sugar Daddys like 60+ gets girls like 30-40 years younger and people think less than that. I mean an 18 year old having sex witgh a 15 year old sounds much better than that shit. It's all opinion just made to be the law. That's why i hate the law

And this thread made me think that if being Gay is natural, then old men being attracted to kids must be natural as well if we're going by that logic then

[toxicbuffy]

as much as i hate these fuckers , i got to say its a disorder. I cannot see how a person would do this, but just like being gay its a disease. Now the question is, why don't these people get help b4 they commint such a sick act? They do know its wrong.... Anyways the world is fucked thats all i gotta say.

being gay is a disease

I have a few gay friends, guys and girls, and believe me they do not "have a disease"

Well actually, just as I went into all that in the original post - Being gay is or could at least be correctly / loosely defined as a disease. It means that two people who are sexually attracted too each other (two men / two women) - cannot create offspring.

There is nothing more unnatural, more detrimental to the human race and which could be defined more as a disease - to the species, than that. So as offensive as you may find it, logically speaking, you could absolutely call it that. Doesn't mean you need to TREAT it as such. Or, more comfortably - a disorder.

Now again, that doesn't mean we should treat it as a disorder or consider these people needing treatment or inferior. Which is the implication most people apply and there for take offence to the very word itself.

But the fact 1 in 10 people are gay shows it's not an evenly common variant and the fact it's impossible to produce offspring with two partners of the same sex proves it's a disorder. If all humans were gay, the species would die out.

So whilst you might not like to call it that, that's what it is. And again, doesn't mean I consider gay people sick or weird and politically and philosophically we should treat them the same as everybody else. Just like we should treat ALL people (in practice).

But having a sexual preference for members of the same sex, therefore perverting the natural course of intercourse and continuation of gene replication (Evolution's only 'goal') - It cannot be called natural in that context at all. It's natural only in the sense that gay people do not choose to be gay, it's natural in its state just like somebody who has Autism is naturally autistic - they didn't create the autism.

But being gay could absolutely and in reality, is a disorder / disease. It may very well be one of the natural population control defenses of natural selection, along with diseases which actually kill human beings by the millions. If every human alive could and did reproduce Earth would overflow.

There has to be a natural backlash / what goes up must come down and so on. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So maybe 1 in 10 people (roughly speaking) being gay and therefore unable to reproduce (unless they ignore sexual desire) - Maybe that is a natural defense that has continued to remain in the gene-pool for that reason. To react against our sheer level of non-stop reproduction and survival.

thisss

[Elision]