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Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

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Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Feb 3rd, '10, 07:26

To conclude this little bit of knowledge on violent children, I'm going to give you some details (from my notes) about school killers, rampage killers, school violence, behaviors of concern, the "new" violence, the copycat effect, and finally suggestions made by the author on what to look for in potential violent children :y:

School Killers: Risk Factors, Red Flags
1. There is NO ONE FACTOR that causes children to be violent from their antisocial behavior (although the majority of violent children have depression or "no hope" as they feel).
2. 50% discussed murder before the event (where adult killers rarely do)
3. ADHD is very common
4. Lack of safety (violent parents, siblings, or living in a violence ridden area-effects their ability to make good decisions).
5. Feeling of helplessness-Doesn't want to be the victim anymore, wants to make others the victim.
6. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder-Could be from a violent past i.e. abusive parents.

Risk Factors:
Past violent behavior
Substance abuse
Aggressive peers (hanging with the "wrong crowd")
Family aggression
Social stress (school, friends, girlfriend, etc.)
Character of mental disorder
Access to weapons
Focused Anger-(threats, hitlist=higher risk, "I hate school" versus "I hate my teacher" or "I hate karen"
Low degree of resilience

Rampage Killers: The difference between children and adults
Adults=Loners/Isolated...Don't tell family or friends
Children acted with support of peers
-Some kids are goaded
-Some boasted of plans, encouraged others to witness

School Violence Characteristics:
Told someone before
Caucasian
Semi-automatic weapons
Half have mental disturbance

*Behaviors of Concern:
Lying
Blaming others-Don't take responsibility for anything
Avoid effort to achieve goals-without goals there is nothing to live for
Lack empathy
Exploit others weaknesses-Though some are the ones picked on and have their weaknesses exploited
Petty crimes
Gang behavior (rare)
Pattern of anger
Violent family history
Sudden interest in guns
Develop intense dislike of school
*Carrying weapons-To school, or anywhere for that matter, this is a big sign

The New Violence: Want immortality, choreographed.
Choreographed for effect-They want respect
Fame/Recognition-Immortality
Set a record of kills
Distortions of reality-Think things are worse than they really are, things of that nature.
Violent heroes (Columbine shooters)
Entitlement
Nothing to lose (mentioned earlier ^)

Copycat Effect:
Prior incidents provide context
Get attention
Play out movies/video games

SIdenote: The media makes school shootings look exciting, shows their faces, covered by many outlets (news, internet, papers, books, movies, etc.)

Suggestions as to children who are most likely to commit these terrible crimes by Jonathan Kellerman, author of "Savage Spawn: Reflections on Violent Children:
Police contact before age 11
Proactive aggression
Low physiological arousal
Sensation seeking-Caused from boredom
Feelings of inadequecy
Erotic violent fantasies
Victim of violence
Low IQ (Where in adult serial killers you would look for an exceptionally high IQ)
Love Deprivation or "Perceived Neglect" as in, they may feel they deserve more attention from parents, teachers, others, even if they do receive a lot of attention.


*This is the last of reflections on violent children, or better put school shooters. We are moving onto serial killers next and also mass murderers, so that will be next addition from my Psych and Antisocial behavior class.

**One thing I'd like to add, while the shooter at Virginia Tech is given credit for the largest mass murder/school shooting in American history, this information is actually incorrect. My professor told us about Andrew Kehoe today, who in 1927 in Bath, Michigan killed 45 (38 gradeschoolers and 7 adults) and injured 58. More information on this can be read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

As always, any questions feel free to ask :y:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Most-Hated » Feb 3rd, '10, 07:38

Damn well all I can say is therapy, and Marijuania make all the thoughts of mass shootings just disappear from my head haha...

YO btw what college do you go to?
she takes me on a journey, to a place called hell,
she showed where she stays, she show me where she dwells,
theres an errie saddness, commin from the room,
its as if its a funeral, but were all doomed,
death all around, but i feel more comfort,
blood rained skies, you could say im covered,
the feelin from her, is like no other
dont wanna say it, but the demon i love her
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Feb 3rd, '10, 08:17

DeSales University, it's in Center Valley, Pennsylvania :y:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Most-Hated » Feb 3rd, '10, 08:22

Emadyville wrote:DeSales University, it's in Center Valley, Pennsylvania :y:

sweet dude...

I'm trying to get into Auburn University atm (in Bama)
she takes me on a journey, to a place called hell,
she showed where she stays, she show me where she dwells,
theres an errie saddness, commin from the room,
its as if its a funeral, but were all doomed,
death all around, but i feel more comfort,
blood rained skies, you could say im covered,
the feelin from her, is like no other
dont wanna say it, but the demon i love her
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby AliJack » Feb 3rd, '10, 13:11

Damn man, nice info you got here, love how you put it all together :y:

ps: I spent an hour lookin for this damn thread
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Feb 3rd, '10, 17:29

AliJack wrote:Damn man, nice info you got here, love how you put it all together :y:

ps: I spent an hour lookin for this damn thread


Haha thanks :y:

Not sure why it took an hour :unsure:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby AliJack » Feb 3rd, '10, 17:35

Emadyville wrote:
AliJack wrote:Damn man, nice info you got here, love how you put it all together :y:

ps: I spent an hour lookin for this damn thread


Haha thanks :y:

Not sure why it took an hour :unsure:

fuck this college crib :angry:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Feb 3rd, '10, 19:52

PINK wrote:Good conclusion. :y: :flower:


Thank you :y:

I just wanted to conclude it with some facts and symptoms on these children, to kind of give an overview of the whole topic. I can't wait to learn about serial killers and all that cause I'm sure it'll be a lot more interesting.
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Feb 3rd, '10, 20:02

PINK wrote:This was very interesting, so looking forward to next topic. That's if you're making it. lol :sweating:


I will be, but not on violent children anymore, we're done with this topic in my class, so I really couldn't add more :'(

But serial killers should have many parts to it, as there are many kinds of serial killers (lust, gory, profit, delusion, etc.) :y:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby VenomBlackViper » Mar 4th, '11, 13:06

Nice read on this entire series, gotta say some of this shit applies to me :shifty:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Mar 4th, '11, 21:01

VenomBlackViper wrote:Nice read on this entire series, gotta say some of this shit applies to me :shifty:


:o


Its cool, Im sure some of this applies to everyone :coffee:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby macdaddy019967 » Mar 4th, '11, 21:25

This don't apply to me
very interesting though (did you write a paper on this?) if so post it,(would like to read it).
On a side note:
I bet I have more achievements than you emady :shifty:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Mar 4th, '11, 21:29

Sorry, didn't write any papers for this class, just found it very interesting so I thought I'd share the shit I learned.

...more achievements :unsure:
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby VenomBlackViper » Mar 4th, '11, 21:31

Emady double posting :o
never thought i'd see the day
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Re: Reflections on Violent Choldren Part III: The Conclusion

Postby Emadyville » Mar 5th, '11, 05:14

VenomBlackViper wrote:Emady double posting :o
never thought i'd see the day


fuck, I think i tripled posted in the other one of these threads...it's one thing I can get away with, well I can do it and no one can warn me I should say :tounge2:

Sometimes I hate editing, these threads though I was answering too many people :coffee:
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