Your Theories On Evolution?

[Elision]

So it will make me not believe we're once animals. Never.

That is ignorant. I, as an open-minded atheist, allow my beliefs to be swayed by what evidence points towards.

You, however, have just plainly stated that no matter what, nothing can change your beliefs. Ever. So don't go around saying that you're open-minded. You don't deserve that glorification.

Ok then. I'm close minded. I accept that. It don't matter. I thought I wanted to contribute, sharing my thoughts on Evolution and how it don't exist in my religion.

That's fine. But there's a place for religious talk. This thread is regarding Evolution and your theories on it. Not what your ancient religion has to say about it.

[gutawafang]

^ I aplogize then.

[garageon]

i'm from france and i think it's quite scary you in the US have some school not teaching evolution theory but creationism, like science is shit and can't prove a thing...

[Shadysapathy]

Speaking as a Muslim, I'd say that there is enough evidence in the Quran and Hadith to say that most of evolution (including the timeline) is true. Some things may have been 'helped,' by God, but I don't think there's anything contradicting most of what scientists today accept as fact.

[EminemBase]

Evolution is a stone-cold fact. As scientifically documented and accepted as the hardest of hard truths. So I don't need theories on it. It's true.

There are many sub-debates, within evolutionary science about how exactly certain key elements of gene adaption etc. Occured. But there is no debate on whether it did happen.

There's just a very distorted view on Evolution, as if it's still up for questioning. Still just 'one' idea. Mainly due to the religious bullying since its first comprehensive study by, of course, Charles Darwin. Religious and educational politics. Biased. Unwillingness and somewhat... Dislike at the idea of being close relatives of Apes - Human ego.

There's also a gigantic misconception by Joe Public that because it's phrased the theory of Evolution, it's not really a fact or it's just a string of loose ideas which has yet to be cemented. That's totally incorrect. You often here the misconceived amongst us try to use this as a point, usually saying something like "It is JUST a theory remember".

They call it the theory of Evolution as they do the theory of gravity. Because Science as a whole accepts it can be wrong and are not so arrogant as to put a final say on anything. They know that the absolute way to discover more is to push on, not stay put. So that's why they call it a theory. But it's as much of a fact as anything.

None of that has any bearing on how true it is though. That just shows how comfortable society at large are with accepting it. But make no mistake, Evolution is as true as the word truth itself.

[WakeUpShow]

Evolution is a stone-cold fact. As scientifically documented and accepted as the hardest of hard truths. So I don't need theories on it. It's true.

There are many sub-debates, within evolutionary science about how exactly certain key elements of gene adaption etc. Occured. But there is no debate on whether it did happen.

There's just a very distorted view on Evolution, as if it's still up for questioning. Still just 'one' idea. Mainly due to the religious bullying since its first comprehensive study by, of course, Charles Darwin. Religious and educational politics. Biased. Unwillingness and somewhat... Dislike at the idea of being close relatives of Apes - Human ego.

There's also a gigantic misconception by Joe Public that because it's phrased the theory of Evolution, it's not really a fact or it's just a string of loose ideas which has yet to be cemented. That's totally incorrect. You often here the misconceived amongst us try to use this as a point, usually saying something like "It is JUST a theory remember".

They call it the theory of Evolution as they do the theory of gravity. Because Science as a whole accepts it can be wrong and are not so arrogant as to put a final say on anything. They know that the absolute way to discover more is to push on, not stay put. So that's why they call it a theory. But it's as much of a fact as anything.

None of that has any bearing on how true it is though. That just shows how comfortable society at large are with accepting it. But make no mistake, Evolution is as true as the word truth itself.

i always feel like you are shoving your beliefs down our throats

[classthe_king]

I watched this video on Evolution and I completely agree with it now

[Cube23]

This video explains it quite precisely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWwPAoh7M4

[classthe_king]

This video explains it quite precisely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWwPAoh7M4

Classic

[mrjizzbomber]

Evolution is a stone-cold fact. As scientifically documented and accepted as the hardest of hard truths. So I don't need theories on it. It's true.

There are many sub-debates, within evolutionary science about how exactly certain key elements of gene adaption etc. Occured. But there is no debate on whether it did happen.

There's just a very distorted view on Evolution, as if it's still up for questioning. Still just 'one' idea. Mainly due to the religious bullying since its first comprehensive study by, of course, Charles Darwin. Religious and educational politics. Biased. Unwillingness and somewhat... Dislike at the idea of being close relatives of Apes - Human ego.

There's also a gigantic misconception by Joe Public that because it's phrased the theory of Evolution, it's not really a fact or it's just a string of loose ideas which has yet to be cemented. That's totally incorrect. You often here the misconceived amongst us try to use this as a point, usually saying something like "It is JUST a theory remember".

They call it the theory of Evolution as they do the theory of gravity. Because Science as a whole accepts it can be wrong and are not so arrogant as to put a final say on anything. They know that the absolute way to discover more is to push on, not stay put. So that's why they call it a theory. But it's as much of a fact as anything.

None of that has any bearing on how true it is though. That just shows how comfortable society at large are with accepting it. But make no mistake, Evolution is as true as the word truth itself.

i always feel like you are shoving your beliefs down our throats

While his attitude is annoying, nothing he says is really a "belief". The focus in the 2000s should not be on 'how did we come about', as that is known - it has been known for many centuries - evolution as a holistic concept is fact / truth. Spending time and resources on verifying evolution would set science and society back hundreds of years, which is why the only people who waste time questioning it is the public.

The focus of science and society needs to be on the specifics and details of evolution. The biological processes which facilitated adaptation. The events and circumstances which catered to certain naturally selected genes, but did not cater to others.

And, MOST IMPORTANTLY, we need to be thinking on how this knowledge can be used to help us in the future. How can we use this research and the discoveries about evolution to cure cancer, synthetically alter our skin to protect us from harmful radiation, fight viruses and bacteria, etc. I think this is the questions we need to be focusing on.

[Eedee]

EminemBase is dead on with all his posts he makes about science/evolution.

Evolution is a FACT. Not a theory, a fact. The evidence for it is overwhelmingly abundant and it syncs up perfectly. It's logical and flows clearly. The people who don't believe it are either a) idiotic morons b) haven't studied the evidence clearly enough c) refuse to research the evidence with links them back up with option a.

The evidence for evolution by natural selection keeps on piling up and it's the best reason as to how humans came about. It's a fact as hard as any in science.

[EminemBase]

Well, Evolution is a fact.

There are debates within Science about how certain elements of Evolution happened. But none that it did happen, contrary to what people believe due to it being refered to as a 'thoery'.

Creationists constantly say things like "it IS just a theory though!". But scientists use the word 'theory' in a more solidified way. It's called a theory as we cannot literally observe it and we've pieced it together. But Evolution is as accepted a fact in Science as any.

DNA is indpisputable, fossils are indisputable. It's proven in ways that are not opinion.

It's the equivalent of seeing a murder scene, after it happened. And having almost every single piece of evidence to prove X person did it. Having a murder weapon, prints, a motive and even a partial tape of the suspect walking into the room with weapon in hand.

This is an analogy Dawkins gives but it illustrates it perfectly. And it'd be like the tape cutting out just before the murder happened and then people going "see, we didn't it actually committed". And whilst that's technically true, it's a bit silly. It is a fact.

[mdemaz]

Obviously something happened people.
When we talk about big time scales like billions of years, then yes, the fabric of our existence will change dramatically.

Soo simple.

[EminemBase]

Evolution is a stone-cold fact. As scientifically documented and accepted as the hardest of hard truths. So I don't need theories on it. It's true.

There are many sub-debates, within evolutionary science about how exactly certain key elements of gene adaption etc. Occured. But there is no debate on whether it did happen.

There's just a very distorted view on Evolution, as if it's still up for questioning. Still just 'one' idea. Mainly due to the religious bullying since its first comprehensive study by, of course, Charles Darwin. Religious and educational politics. Biased. Unwillingness and somewhat... Dislike at the idea of being close relatives of Apes - Human ego.

There's also a gigantic misconception by Joe Public that because it's phrased the theory of Evolution, it's not really a fact or it's just a string of loose ideas which has yet to be cemented. That's totally incorrect. You often here the misconceived amongst us try to use this as a point, usually saying something like "It is JUST a theory remember".

They call it the theory of Evolution as they do the theory of gravity. Because Science as a whole accepts it can be wrong and are not so arrogant as to put a final say on anything. They know that the absolute way to discover more is to push on, not stay put. So that's why they call it a theory. But it's as much of a fact as anything.

None of that has any bearing on how true it is though. That just shows how comfortable society at large are with accepting it. But make no mistake, Evolution is as true as the word truth itself.

i always feel like you are shoving your beliefs down our throats

They're not MY beliefs though.

I didn't invent Evolution. I didn't invent Science.

Evolution isn't a personal opinion of mine or a taste prefence. It's reality.

So I'm not shoving 'my beliefs' down people's throats, I'm stating reality.

I seem harsh or like I'm 'shoving' the information because I'm stating facts and not allowing room for nonsense or fiction. And that annoys some people who don't WANT to believe Evolution is true. That's their / your problem though, not mine.

Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't mean it's not true.

Would I seem harsh or like I'm shoving 'my beliefs' down your throat if I told you the facts or 'theory' or gravity or the planets in our Solar System? no. Becuase these beliefs don't interfere with people's personal WISHFUL wants about afterlife or religion.

It's only because Evolution is related to life, and humans, that it seems harsh or less easy to accept. But it's as accepted a fact as any in Science and not 'my belief'.

[mdemaz]

The universe and our planet is only 13 billion years old.
A mere spec compared to the universe as a whole as we can only see 13 billion light years.

This planet when it was just a hot rock without an atmosphere was already beaming with life.

In the immenseness of the chaos, life thrived on the planet.
It would of taken a insane amount of time for humans to evolve.
I know why people don't believe in evolution, because of the lack of evidence.
I can argue there is lack of evidence in the existence in Jesus other than a few stones and tombs.

I'm not trying to bash religion, all it does is try to explain the unexplainable, I respect that.

But evolution is the logic us humans are best at.
It's really the only explanation we can think of to explain how we came to be.

Soo fucking simple.