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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Doodlebug » Jun 15th, '12, 13:07

In our lives, we want acknowledgement... we want.. equality.

We step forward to ask and later demand it - hoping we can get others to see eye to eye.

Thing is, you can't.

People either accept or do not accept - sometimes they slowly begin to understand, and heck sometimes they get more angry and more standoffish and determined to NOT see it - that way.

People, need to group to give what ever it is - more ... credence. Mainly to themselves. A way to pull together, to belong, to say "HEY!! WE EXIST - and we are not going away".

Key is - knowing that there is a time and a place...


For me, I do not think either way about it. Not good, not bad - I just see it for what it is... (what I said above).

Everyone wants to be heard, heeded and felt as if what they stand for, or against - or support, is important. The topic - or the reason, varies.
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby CrashBand » Jun 15th, '12, 13:15

Kill You wrote:I actually kinda agree with you that gays shouldn't march around announcing their gay...of course I don't really have a problem with it either. I kinda understand why they're marching so as long as they're just doing marches that's fine. But walking into a room full of people announcing or acting like you're gay and shit like that...I think it's just for attention. I don't see why gay men and women feel the need to act like the other gender as well, while we're on the subject...I think it would be far more accepted if gay people acted normal...gay men kind of annoy me when they act like girls lol.

I'm not a homophobe or anything it's just that shit gets on my nerves and I can see why people wouldn't like gay people for it.


I'm not quite sure what you mean that it annoys you people "acting like they're gay". First of all it's stereotyping and second of all would it annoy you if a black man acted like they're black or a macho man acted macho?

And @ gay people acting like the other gender. I think it's just gay men are more feminine than straight men. Not that they are going out of there way to act like a woman.

and just unsure about the 'they should act more normal' comment.
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Words » Jun 20th, '12, 06:04

The thing with marching around telling everyone you're straight is that it would have no impact. If you started a "Straight-pride parade" the general response would be: "Okay, cool story bro.... What do you want, a cookie?" Plus, being a hetero-sexual person means that you have rights above and beyond that of a homo-sexual person (at least in America.) These parades serve a dual-purpose, not only as a way to show pride, but also to show protest against the powers that keep these rights from them. There is absolutely no reason why gay marriage shouldn't be legalized, except for the fact that it makes some people feel uneasy because THEY don't like it. Don't worry my fellow heterosexual Americans, if we allow gay marriage I promise no one will make you marry someone of the same sex. It will not effect your freedoms in any way, but it will give additional freedom to a group of people in our country who currently lack it. After all, isn't that what America is supposed to be all about? "Land of the Free" and all that bullshit? All I'm saying is that you have no right waving the Stars and Stripes until you are comfertable with your neighbor being able to wave the rainbow flag right next door.


Speaking strictly about the parades: There's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed, because like I said it serves as a form of protest. The write to assembly? Free Speech? Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it? Check the First Ammendment of the United States Constitution and you will not find where it says "All Americans are given these inalienable rights except for the gays, queers, and lesbos." To deny them the right to organize and participate in these parades is a direct violation of their rights guaranteed by the First Ammendment. Even if you think that they are pointless and do not agree with their cause, if you value Free Speech for every American in this country, the parades and marches are perfectly fine.
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby the real slim shady » Jun 20th, '12, 09:32

Words wrote:The thing with not marching around telling everyone you're straight is that it would have no impact. If you started a "Straight-pride parade" the general response would be: "Okay, cool story bro.... What do you want, a cookie?" Plus, being a hetero-sexual person means that you have rights above and beyond that of a homo-sexual person (at least in America.) These parades serve a dual-purpose, not only as a way to show pride, but also to show protest against the powers that keep these rights from them. There is absolutely no reason why gay marriage shouldn't be legalized, except for the fact that it makes some people feel uneasy because THEY don't like it. Don't worry my fellow heterosexual Americans, if we allow gay marriage I promise no one will make you marry someone of the same sex. It will not effect your freedoms in any way, but it will give additional freedom to a group of people in our country who currently lack it. After all, isn't that what America is supposed to be all about? "Land of the Free" and all that bullshit? All I'm saying is that you have no right waving the Stars and Stripes until you are comfertable with your neighbor being able to wave the rainbow flag right next door.


Speaking strictly about the parades: There's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed, because like I said it serves as a form of protest. The write to assembly? Free Speech? Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it? Check the First Ammendment of the United States Constitution and you will not find where it says "All Americans are given these inalienable rights except for the gays, queers, and lesbos." To deny them the right to organize and participate in these parades is a direct violation of their rights guaranteed by the First Ammendment. Even if you think that they are pointless and do not agree with their cause, if you value Free Speech for every American in this country, the parades and marches are perfectly fine.

having a straight pride parade would be called homophobic
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Guess_Who » Jun 20th, '12, 11:36

Soon (jul 2 ) there will be dia del orgullo gay in Madrid, another gay march. Muy loca!! :slut:
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby the real slim shady » Jun 20th, '12, 11:38

will we see you there with alex? :unsure:
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Guess_Who » Jun 20th, '12, 12:57

haha that kind of things are not my cup of tea. But I'm not against that. :p
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Words » Jun 20th, '12, 14:35

the real slim shady wrote:
Words wrote:The thing with not marching around telling everyone you're straight is that it would have no impact. If you started a "Straight-pride parade" the general response would be: "Okay, cool story bro.... What do you want, a cookie?" Plus, being a hetero-sexual person means that you have rights above and beyond that of a homo-sexual person (at least in America.) These parades serve a dual-purpose, not only as a way to show pride, but also to show protest against the powers that keep these rights from them. There is absolutely no reason why gay marriage shouldn't be legalized, except for the fact that it makes some people feel uneasy because THEY don't like it. Don't worry my fellow heterosexual Americans, if we allow gay marriage I promise no one will make you marry someone of the same sex. It will not effect your freedoms in any way, but it will give additional freedom to a group of people in our country who currently lack it. After all, isn't that what America is supposed to be all about? "Land of the Free" and all that bullshit? All I'm saying is that you have no right waving the Stars and Stripes until you are comfertable with your neighbor being able to wave the rainbow flag right next door.


Speaking strictly about the parades: There's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed, because like I said it serves as a form of protest. The write to assembly? Free Speech? Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it? Check the First Ammendment of the United States Constitution and you will not find where it says "All Americans are given these inalienable rights except for the gays, queers, and lesbos." To deny them the right to organize and participate in these parades is a direct violation of their rights guaranteed by the First Ammendment. Even if you think that they are pointless and do not agree with their cause, if you value Free Speech for every American in this country, the parades and marches are perfectly fine.

having a straight pride parade would be called homophobic


Pretty much what I was trying to say in that first bit.
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby the real slim shady » Jun 20th, '12, 16:42

Guess_Who wrote:haha that kind of things are not my cup of tea. But I'm not against that. :p

fine :crossed:

Saw a gay guy today at the shops... he called someone a fag :facepalm (and he was gay... you can tell by the clothes, hairstyle, voice, and the fact he was holding hands with his boyfriend :whistle: )
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Guess_Who » Jun 20th, '12, 18:17

the real slim shady wrote:
Guess_Who wrote:haha that kind of things are not my cup of tea. But I'm not against that. :p

fine :crossed:

Saw a gay guy today at the shops... he called someone a fag :facepalm (and he was gay... you can tell by the clothes, hairstyle, voice, and the fact he was holding hands with his boyfriend :whistle: )


well, gays can be retarded too, just like any of us. Not me of course.
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby the real slim shady » Jun 20th, '12, 18:26

Guess_Who wrote:
the real slim shady wrote:
Guess_Who wrote:haha that kind of things are not my cup of tea. But I'm not against that. :p

fine :crossed:

Saw a gay guy today at the shops... he called someone a fag :facepalm (and he was gay... you can tell by the clothes, hairstyle, voice, and the fact he was holding hands with his boyfriend :whistle: )


well, gays can be retarded too, just like any of us. Not me of course.

of course not you... :roll:

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Re: Gay Marches

Postby Guess_Who » Jun 20th, '12, 18:37

so you like South Park...look what they did to your Queen :shifty: ....


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Re: Gay Marches

Postby the real slim shady » Jun 20th, '12, 18:42

Guess_Who wrote:so you like South Park...look what they did to your Queen :shifty: ....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi ... xWidth=500

oh no... what a shame...

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Re: Gay Marches

Postby limea » Jun 20th, '12, 22:58

the real slim shady wrote:
Guess_Who wrote:haha that kind of things are not my cup of tea. But I'm not against that. :p

fine :crossed:

Saw a gay guy today at the shops... he called someone a fag :facepalm (and he was gay... you can tell by the clothes, hairstyle, voice, and the fact he was holding hands with his boyfriend :whistle: )

There's nothing wrong with that. It's like black people calling others niggas. When a minority group uses a offensive word themselves, it lessens the impact of the word. It's called reappropriation. For example the word "queer" is now an acceptable term to describe members of the LGBT community.
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Re: Gay Marches

Postby the real slim shady » Jun 21st, '12, 09:47

yeah but if i called someone a fag in public i'd get i trouble.... there was some guy nearby who heard the guy say it, but when he looked and realised the guy was gay he just didnt do anything.. seems kinda weird.

And it seems a bit contradictory to be using fag to describe someone when you are gay and it is supposed to be so offensive.. i suppose it is like the n word though :whistle:
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