Geno wrote:Accor wrote:Rhyming can be impressive, I just think at times it can bring down lyricism when people force rhymes that are unnecessary into songs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you saying Jay-Z was more lyrical than Em in the Renegade thread? What did Em say that was unnecessary that sacrificed a message for a rhyme?
If it wasn't you, my bad.
I've said I think Jay's second verse is the best, but all of the verses on that song are practically perfect. I don't think Eminem sacrificed anything for a rhyme on that song.
Menzo wrote:Accor wrote:The only reason I said that though is because in the OP, Menzo said that he was highlighting the rhymes on the supposed Relapse 2 songs to see how "lyrical" it would be, like that's all it takes lol. I believe Underground rhymes a lot but it definitely isn't a lyrical masterpiece.
No fuckin' shit Einstein, you think of that yourself? Rhyming is part of lyricism, that's why a ton of rappers call Slaughterhouse "super lyrical", even Em called them super lyrical. They must be wrong, all of them.
Rhyming is often considered to be a part of the technical aspect of rap, along with flows/cadence. Lyricism is what the rapper is saying. Rhyming can be considered an aspect of lyricism but it isn't the only part. This is supposed to be a lyrical appreciation thread but all you're doing is highlighting rhymes.
What I said about the OP is true. You were making it seem like a lot of rhymes makes something good lyrically. Weren't you defending Crooked I's verse on Throw It Away because it rhymes well? Didn't you highlight them in an effort to defend the verse?
I don't understand why you brought up Slaughterhouse :s Each individual member (other than Crooked I) is capable of writing a verse that isn't rhyming incoherently and I don't think they're considered "lyrical miracle" rappers.
