Bad Guy vs. Stan

[Mr Change]

Stan obviously wins this debate, and always will. But Bad Guy is an incredible song.

[eviltwin]

The first time I heard the song Stan with the lyrics, man, was I impressed. Like, that's THE song that made me see his geniusness. It was incredible and I don't think a song touched me like this EVER before. I was very sad even though I knew the story wasn't true and I got goosebumps. Stan is awesome as fuck.
I was like "how the fuck can he do that " And that's when I became an Eminem-fan actually.
I was shocked for days actually. I couldn't get over this masterpiece.

Bad Guy is amazing but you know, I wasn't that impressed. It wasn't as good. It's good, hell, it's very good but it's not as good as Stan, imo.

And no, I'm not just being nostalgic or something like this.

[nxt-semster-illB35]

Stan 10/10
Bad Guy first 3 quarters 6.5/10
Bad Guy epilogue 9.8/10

[Ottawa613]

Stan pretty easily.

Eminem will never have a track that touches Stan. Not a knock on Eminem, but Stan is way too classic. When I became an Eminem fan, I went back and listened to prior songs he had put out. Stan was the one song that stood out the most for me. The storytelling was incredible, yet he stayed with an incredible flow, delivery and rhyming.

I enjoy Bad Guy, especially the final quarter of the song. But Stan is incredible.

[Snakebeast]

Stan 10/10
Bad Guy first 3 quarters 6.5/10
Bad Guy epilogue 9.8/10

what

[csw621]

i haven't read this whole thread but stan and it's honestly not even close

edit i also agree with everything eviltwin said

[csw621]

The entire twist of Matthew also ending up being symbolic for everything in his life and career that's closing in on him and coming back to kill him is fucking incredible

idk that all seemed kind of contrived, it's not like that was his intention when he wrote stan

and acknowledges and says things in a way he really hasn't done before. That second level it operates on

agree

pushes it past just the concept of a "sequel to a story".

meh

i can't really compare one great verse to a masterpiece, probably his best song ever

[kpprasa]

You can rate a song based on:
wordplay & lyricism [Stan]
content [Stan]
originality (of content)[Stan]
flow (has an effect on wordplay)[Stan]
beat [Bad Guy]
innovation (different than originality, its more focused on the details and such) [Stan]

Stan is a defining moment in hip hop and also stands the test of time as one of the greatest story telling tracks of all time. This was also one of the first times we got a peak at the human reality that is Marshall Mathers.

Bar none.

Dawggg.... WTF. The rest are opinions but really? Stan doesn't have better wordplay than Bad Guy. It just doesn't.

[Trilla]

You can rate a song based on:
wordplay & lyricism [Stan]
content [Stan]
originality (of content)[Stan]
flow (has an effect on wordplay)[Stan]
beat [Bad Guy]
innovation (different than originality, its more focused on the details and such) [Stan]

Stan is a defining moment in hip hop and also stands the test of time as one of the greatest story telling tracks of all time. This was also one of the first times we got a peak at the human reality that is Marshall Mathers.

Bar none.

Dawggg.... WTF. The rest are opinions but really? Stan doesn't have better wordplay than Bad Guy. It just doesn't.

It has better lyricism, though.

[knockmathers]

Stan, his top 3 song IMO

[cityfan31]

C'mon.

Stan is a phenomenon.

[Gothamshady]

Just wanted to see everyone's opinion, since it's been almost an entire year for the song to settle


EDIT: Pls move to Chit Chat

[Him Shadow]

I can't tell, too hard

[Raul]

inb4lock

[Gothamshady]

Please move to Chit Chat instead of lock.